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Bryan Winchell's avatar

Very well explained, Eric. Thanks! (Also, I'm appreciating that you're taking the time to do these as video presentations---looking good!).

I'm gonna beat a dead horse here (from our interaction on another post) and ask: Why did you use the Koch House system for this one?

I suspect it's because it really does show a lot with the exactness of Mercury on the ASC.

PS I have natal Saturn at 15°2' Gemini, so 9/11 was around the start of my first Saturn Return. There's a long story attached to that, which I whittled down into one of the first blog posts I ever wrote back in 2012. The moral was that the events of 9/11 and the events occurring in my life at that time greatly deepened my appreciation for integrity (a good Saturnian word) and gave me the phrase, "Life's too short for bullshit!"

agent Rogelier than you's avatar

I'm comparing this chart with the chart for the 10:28 am, which is the moment when the North tower falls. I didn't know that the North Tower, first hit, was the second tower that fell. The South tower, second hit at 09:03 fell at 09:59, and was the first to collapse. (https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Terrorist:_2001_Attacks_on_World_Trade_Center)

In the chart for 10:28, rising Scorpio with ASc at 4º28' and Pholus very close in 8 Sc 59.

Pholus is exactly conjunct the Asc at 10:51.

Eric Francis Coppolino's avatar

What is your theoretical validity to that chart, as it's not an inception of anything. Astrology address the conditions at the outset. The incident started hours earlier.

agent Rogelier than you's avatar

I was thinking that people died both when the planes hit, and when the towers collapsed, and also between those two moments. And probably a lot of people only began to understand when the second tower fell.

I had curiosity to see if there was something important that changed between the start and the finish. The ruler of the chart is Mars, which is in exaltation in Capricorn. Taking the whole sequence, the energy shifted from Venus to Mars. Maybe that means something.

agent Rogelier than you's avatar

For this chart of WTC 7 that falls at 5:21pm with Neptune rising I see a few curiosities.

From Serennu website, squares to Neptune 6 aq 20:

-Asteroid 2254 Requiem 7 sc 5

-Centaur Pholus 9 sc 0, Asteroid 3811 Karma 10 sc 31. 10th house.

Conjunction to Neptune Asteroid 2878 Panacea 28 aq 57

In opposition to Neptune and the Ascendant:

- Asteroid 100 Hekate 7 le 42

- Asteroid 1247 Memoria 8 le 10 (5 arc-minutes away from the Descendant)

- Trans-Neptunian object 42355 Typhon 5 le 29

The myth of Typhon seems pertinent. This is the name of the monster that attacks Mount Olympus, causing the gods to flee, including Venus and her son, who transform in two fish, which is the story behind of Pisces (hidden enemies, surprise attack.)

The Moon is now in Cancer, as you point out in the article. But during the attacks in the morning, the Moon was Void-of-course, and this period ended at 4:09 pm, about an hour before WTC 7 falls. The first aspect the Moon does is an opposition to Mars in Capricorn. Mars is the ruler of the Midheaven in this chart for WTC7.

Eric Francis Coppolino's avatar

try doing the chart with just classical planets, our planets out to Pluto. Then you know what you're doing. Stick to orbs within a degree or so. You can paint the chart with all kinds of points; the more points you use the faster you have to go inside of one degree for them to matter.